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What would you do if you fell in love, but borders stopped you from being together? For some couples in East Berlin, the only options were to break up, end up in jail, be killed...or escape. In this episode we meet a mustachioed young East German, the American woman he falls in love with, and the stranger who helps them orchestrate an escape. It's a story full of heart, bravery, and far too many close calls. It's like something out of a spy movie, and we're so honoured they joined us to talk us through this daring escape, why they planned it, and how it all played out. If you'd like to watch a short documentary about the escape, head to againstthewallmovie.com. And a huge thank you to our listener, Kurt, for suggesting these guests!